Second LPDF meeting day: Controversy on military officials’ candidacy to presidential elections

The session of the second day of the Libyan Political Dialogue Forum started in Geneva, during which the members delivered successive speeches, while the dialogue session witnessed a verbal dispute between Taj al-Din al-Razzaqi and Abdul Rahman Al-Swehli.

218News reviews the following highlights of the statements of the members of the LPDF:

Abdul Rahman Al-Abbar:

– Unless we make concessions; we will not reach any tangible result in the dialogue forum

The fears present in the dialogue forum were expected, but we are counting on consensus in a patriotic spirit.”

The exclusion policy will not lead us to any result

Azza Al-Said:

We did not commit to the full roadmap, and the commitment was limited to the part related to the election of the Presidential Council and the government

Elections are a necessity and must be on time

The referendum on the constitution may push the residents of Cyrenaica to demand the right to self-determination

We will resort to the United Nations to request the right of self-determination for the residents of “Barqa – Cyrenaica” in the event the constitution is approved

Abu Bakr Al-Obaidi:

The High Council of State obstructed the constitutional referendum

We agreed in “Cyrenaica” on the referendum, despite our disagreement on the draft, and the High State Council obstructed it.

The road map stipulated elections only, and did not address the referendum on the constitution, and we did not approve the referendum on it

Legitimacy will fall from all Libyan authorities on December 25, which makes holding elections a necessity

There will be no postponement of the elections from the political dialogue forum

Ali Dabaiba:

The parliament that gave confidence to the government is “obstinate” today and “obstructionist” by not approving the budget

Parliament’s “obstruction” of the budget reinforces fears that it will not be able to implement the next electoral entitlement

The United Nations mission and the international community have turned their backs on political bodies in Libya

Umm Al-Izz Al-Farsi:

The fears of war, political division, or the division of the nation exist, and there is hope that these fears will vanish

Our first task is to strengthen political legitimacy by reaching the electoral process

The second session, which was not transferred to the dialogue yesterday, was dominated by “provocative” statements.

The adoption of two chambers in the next parliament will obstruct the prospect of a solution in Libya

Saltana Al-Mismari:

The upcoming elections are the first step in achieving stability and cannot be postponed

We cannot guarantee that the election results will be accepted unless the military is unified

Deterrent penalties must be imposed against anyone who does not accept the results of the upcoming elections

Mohamed Bouajila:

There are points of contention that the advisory committee did not address

No mechanism or article was discussed for dissolving Parliament in the event of its breach, and we are, now, suffering from the consequences of the absence of this mechanism.

Line-ups exist among the dialogue members, but the common interest forces us to agree

There is no exclusion of any person or political movement except through the judiciary

What we agreed on should not be re-discussed today, as we have begun to revolve around some controversial points

We have set a goal of reaching the December 24 elections, but we have not set a clear timetable for that

We do not deny the existence of differences and fears, but the dialogue should not be obstructed. Rather, guarantees should be sought

I call on the UN mission to manage the dialogue “better” to ensure that observations are not repeated

Abdullah Al Shaibani:

The advisory committee does not decide on any issue, and decides by consensus or by voting for all members

I demand that the advisory committee’s statement be reconsidered and read out after the amendment

Statement of the Advisory Committee is defective and distorted

Belkassem Nimr:

What the Advisory Committee has concluded is “very good” and I see attempts to “put the stick in the wheels”

There will be no comprehensive reconciliation unless we agree on the form of the state

The mission must abide by what was approved in Tunisia and Geneva regarding the adoption of the historical designation of the three regions of Libya

The unification of the military institution must be accelerated, and mercenaries and foreign fighters out of Libya must be expedited

Direct supervision by the United Nations and regional organizations is required to ensure the “integrity and transparency” of the elections

If we cannot agree on the constitutional rule; It should be voted on publicly.

Abdul Majeed Mleeqta:

There is a discrepancy between the members of the advisory committee, and we must not mislead public opinion

Ali Kasheer:

What happened after 2011 is a large part of it, which is a struggle over identity, money, power and influence

The Libyan people must be resorted to by direct elections

Unless an agreement is reached, the matter must be returned to the House of Representatives

Hassan Zarqa:

It is not permissible to discuss the date of the elections, which should take place on December 24 next

Amal Bugaighis:

We were cheated in the Legal Committee, and some colleagues retracted what was agreed upon

We demand the exclusion of all new proposals that we agreed on in the Legal Committee

I protest and reject the restructuring of the legislative chamber presented in the recommendations of the advisory committee

The structure of the legislative chamber will strain the budget and open the door to divisions

I noticed the interference in the military track and the work of the “5 + 5” commission, and we did not touch on the economic track

Closing the clearing house is something we did not touch on in the economic track, and our interventions in other tracks are a violation of our powers.

The foreign military bases in Libya have nothing to do with obstructing the elections

Elham Saudi:

What happened in yesterday’s session contradicts human rights and freedoms

There is a compromise in terms of candidacy for perpetrators of crimes at the expense of their victims

Will any soldier running for the elections accept the loss? If he was a commander of military forces

Idris El-Barassi:

There is no alternative to a conciliatory societal dialogue between the Libyan parties

The roadmap is the preliminary stage for a comprehensive solution

We stress the necessity of holding the presidential and parliamentary elections on time

The constitution must be submitted to a referendum after parliamentary and presidential elections

Lamis bin Saad:

I submitted a proposal to hold parliamentary elections, followed by a referendum on the constitution, and then presidential elections less than a year later

I demand a quota for youth; to ensure there is representation for them in future bodies

Saad Saleh:

Sitting the dialogue members in informal sessions will produce better results than the “routine” sessions organized by the mission

So far, the unity government has not found any real solutions to the daily problems of citizens

Saleh Al-Obaidi:

I call on the international community to stand by the Libyans to expel all foreign forces and fighters

I demand that the seat of the legislative power be in one place to ensure no splitting

Mohamed Takali:

Our presence today is to achieve consensus, not overpowerment

Yesterday’s proposal of the Advisory Committee does not call for consensus, but rather for opposition

The UN mission should have provided full moral support to the Electoral Commission, not ignored it

I demand the continuation of the constitutional merit and not “jumping on it”, through the formation of other committees

How can the dialogue forum come up with a constitutional basis in “hours” and ignore the work of the constituent body?

Allegations that the constitutional referendum has obstructed the elections are incorrect

Abdul Rahman Al Swehli:

The threatening and intimidating method of war has no place here, and let us leave it to the channels that broadcast grudges

Nobody can threaten us that December 25 will not be the same as before if we can’t get the elections

Threats and threats are a “cheap” method that has no place here.

Had it not been for the Arab Spring and the February Revolution; When we were here, there is no place here for provocative statements

My goal is to give the Libyans the opportunity to choose their representative, in partnership with everyone, without excluding anyone.

Consensus is by holding legislative elections, then a referendum on the constitution, and then presidential elections in accordance with the constitution

We will not allow any party to take advantage of the opportunity to jump on power

Taj Al-Din Al-Razzaqi:

The road map explicitly stipulates presidential and parliamentary elections according to a constitutional basis, and Al-Swehli’s words are “late.”

There is satisfaction for the “Libya Al-Ghad” movement and the “dignity” movement in the proposal submitted by the Advisory Committee

The military candidacy for the presidency is “unrealistic” from a technical and not political point of view

Everyone was satisfied with the advisory committee’s proposal, except for the election track

The requirement that Libyan parties and bodies adopt the constitutional basis won’t get us to the elections

Fathi Arhouma:

People in this room only represent themselves

The Libyan people need services, not fancy words

Bader Al-Naheeb:

Unification of the central bank is essential and an important entitlement

Sovereign institutions must be unified before talking about elections

Those who obtained foreign citizenship for political motives cannot be excluded from running for elections

Abu Bakr Oweidat:

We do not have the right to interfere in matters of national security or the election of the president, and the Constitution Committee accomplished its mission some time ago

Ibtisam Al-Urfi:

The Libyan people do not accept any delay in holding the elections by any party

Our differences should not lead us to a dead end, which may increase the gap between Libyans

No one should be excluded from running in the presidential elections, including the military

Nizar Kawan:

We must all refrain from exercising guardianship over the people

Today we are facing a “historic opportunity” to end the conflict in Libya

There is a reactionary project that wants to return Libya to totalitarian rule

There is a “coup” project to bring Libya backwards

Abdul Razzaq Al-Aradi:

We must treat the advisory committee’s proposals as one indivisible unit

We have waived and accepted the candidacy of the military, provided that evidence of acceptance of the resignation is submitted when submitting the nomination papers

We left the LPDF without adopting a clear text of the constitutional basis. Elections will be disrupted

If we do not reach an agreement by Thursday; I suggest to the mission to dissolve the committee and select other members

Speeche of UNSMIL Coordinator at the conclusion of the session:

We recommend the dialogue members to start negotiations among themselves to reach common ground

We will listen to your findings in the evening session today or during the morning session tomorrow

I confirm what Kubis said that leaving Geneva without reaching a constitutional basis is not an option

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