The session of the second day of the Libyan Political Dialogue Forum started in Geneva, during which the members delivered successive speeches, while the dialogue session witnessed a verbal dispute between Taj al-Din al-Razzaqi and Abdul Rahman Al-Swehli.
218News reviews the following highlights of the statements of the members of the LPDF:
Abdul Rahman Al-Abbar:
– Unless we make concessions; we will not reach any tangible result in the dialogue forum
The fears present in the dialogue forum were expected, but we are counting on consensus in a patriotic spirit.”
The exclusion policy will not lead us to any result
Azza Al-Said:
We did not commit to the full roadmap, and the commitment was limited to the part related to the election of the Presidential Council and the government
Elections are a necessity and must be on time
The referendum on the constitution may push the residents of Cyrenaica to demand the right to self-determination
We will resort to the United Nations to request the right of self-determination for the residents of “Barqa – Cyrenaica” in the event the constitution is approved
Abu Bakr Al-Obaidi:
The High Council of State obstructed the constitutional referendum
We agreed in “Cyrenaica” on the referendum, despite our disagreement on the draft, and the High State Council obstructed it.
The road map stipulated elections only, and did not address the referendum on the constitution, and we did not approve the referendum on it
Legitimacy will fall from all Libyan authorities on December 25, which makes holding elections a necessity
There will be no postponement of the elections from the political dialogue forum
Ali Dabaiba:
The parliament that gave confidence to the government is “obstinate” today and “obstructionist” by not approving the budget
Parliament’s “obstruction” of the budget reinforces fears that it will not be able to implement the next electoral entitlement
The United Nations mission and the international community have turned their backs on political bodies in Libya
Umm Al-Izz Al-Farsi:
The fears of war, political division, or the division of the nation exist, and there is hope that these fears will vanish
Our first task is to strengthen political legitimacy by reaching the electoral process
The second session, which was not transferred to the dialogue yesterday, was dominated by “provocative” statements.
The adoption of two chambers in the next parliament will obstruct the prospect of a solution in Libya
Saltana Al-Mismari:
The upcoming elections are the first step in achieving stability and cannot be postponed
We cannot guarantee that the election results will be accepted unless the military is unified
Deterrent penalties must be imposed against anyone who does not accept the results of the upcoming elections
Mohamed Bouajila:
There are points of contention that the advisory committee did not address
No mechanism or article was discussed for dissolving Parliament in the event of its breach, and we are, now, suffering from the consequences of the absence of this mechanism.
Line-ups exist among the dialogue members, but the common interest forces us to agree
There is no exclusion of any person or political movement except through the judiciary
What we agreed on should not be re-discussed today, as we have begun to revolve around some controversial points
We have set a goal of reaching the December 24 elections, but we have not set a clear timetable for that
We do not deny the existence of differences and fears, but the dialogue should not be obstructed. Rather, guarantees should be sought
I call on the UN mission to manage the dialogue “better” to ensure that observations are not repeated
Abdullah Al Shaibani:
The advisory committee does not decide on any issue, and decides by consensus or by voting for all members
I demand that the advisory committee’s statement be reconsidered and read out after the amendment
Statement of the Advisory Committee is defective and distorted
Belkassem Nimr:
What the Advisory Committee has concluded is “very good” and I see attempts to “put the stick in the wheels”
There will be no comprehensive reconciliation unless we agree on the form of the state
The mission must abide by what was approved in Tunisia and Geneva regarding the adoption of the historical designation of the three regions of Libya
The unification of the military institution must be accelerated, and mercenaries and foreign fighters out of Libya must be expedited
Direct supervision by the United Nations and regional organizations is required to ensure the “integrity and transparency” of the elections
If we cannot agree on the constitutional rule; It should be voted on publicly.
Abdul Majeed Mleeqta:
There is a discrepancy between the members of the advisory committee, and we must not mislead public opinion
Ali Kasheer:
What happened after 2011 is a large part of it, which is a struggle over identity, money, power and influence
The Libyan people must be resorted to by direct elections
Unless an agreement is reached, the matter must be returned to the House of Representatives
Hassan Zarqa:
It is not permissible to discuss the date of the elections, which should take place on December 24 next
Amal Bugaighis:
We were cheated in the Legal Committee, and some colleagues retracted what was agreed upon
We demand the exclusion of all new proposals that we agreed on in the Legal Committee
I protest and reject the restructuring of the legislative chamber presented in the recommendations of the advisory committee
The structure of the legislative chamber will strain the budget and open the door to divisions
I noticed the interference in the military track and the work of the “5 + 5” commission, and we did not touch on the economic track
Closing the clearing house is something we did not touch on in the economic track, and our interventions in other tracks are a violation of our powers.
The foreign military bases in Libya have nothing to do with obstructing the elections
Elham Saudi:
What happened in yesterday’s session contradicts human rights and freedoms
There is a compromise in terms of candidacy for perpetrators of crimes at the expense of their victims
Will any soldier running for the elections accept the loss? If he was a commander of military forces
Idris El-Barassi:
There is no alternative to a conciliatory societal dialogue between the Libyan parties
The roadmap is the preliminary stage for a comprehensive solution
We stress the necessity of holding the presidential and parliamentary elections on time
The constitution must be submitted to a referendum after parliamentary and presidential elections
Lamis bin Saad:
I submitted a proposal to hold parliamentary elections, followed by a referendum on the constitution, and then presidential elections less than a year later
I demand a quota for youth; to ensure there is representation for them in future bodies
Saad Saleh:
Sitting the dialogue members in informal sessions will produce better results than the “routine” sessions organized by the mission
So far, the unity government has not found any real solutions to the daily problems of citizens
Saleh Al-Obaidi:
I call on the international community to stand by the Libyans to expel all foreign forces and fighters
I demand that the seat of the legislative power be in one place to ensure no splitting
Mohamed Takali:
Our presence today is to achieve consensus, not overpowerment
Yesterday’s proposal of the Advisory Committee does not call for consensus, but rather for opposition
The UN mission should have provided full moral support to the Electoral Commission, not ignored it
I demand the continuation of the constitutional merit and not “jumping on it”, through the formation of other committees
How can the dialogue forum come up with a constitutional basis in “hours” and ignore the work of the constituent body?
Allegations that the constitutional referendum has obstructed the elections are incorrect
Abdul Rahman Al Swehli:
The threatening and intimidating method of war has no place here, and let us leave it to the channels that broadcast grudges
Nobody can threaten us that December 25 will not be the same as before if we can’t get the elections
Threats and threats are a “cheap” method that has no place here.
Had it not been for the Arab Spring and the February Revolution; When we were here, there is no place here for provocative statements
My goal is to give the Libyans the opportunity to choose their representative, in partnership with everyone, without excluding anyone.
Consensus is by holding legislative elections, then a referendum on the constitution, and then presidential elections in accordance with the constitution
We will not allow any party to take advantage of the opportunity to jump on power
Taj Al-Din Al-Razzaqi:
The road map explicitly stipulates presidential and parliamentary elections according to a constitutional basis, and Al-Swehli’s words are “late.”
There is satisfaction for the “Libya Al-Ghad” movement and the “dignity” movement in the proposal submitted by the Advisory Committee
The military candidacy for the presidency is “unrealistic” from a technical and not political point of view
Everyone was satisfied with the advisory committee’s proposal, except for the election track
The requirement that Libyan parties and bodies adopt the constitutional basis won’t get us to the elections
Fathi Arhouma:
People in this room only represent themselves
The Libyan people need services, not fancy words
Bader Al-Naheeb:
Unification of the central bank is essential and an important entitlement
Sovereign institutions must be unified before talking about elections
Those who obtained foreign citizenship for political motives cannot be excluded from running for elections
Abu Bakr Oweidat:
We do not have the right to interfere in matters of national security or the election of the president, and the Constitution Committee accomplished its mission some time ago
Ibtisam Al-Urfi:
The Libyan people do not accept any delay in holding the elections by any party
Our differences should not lead us to a dead end, which may increase the gap between Libyans
No one should be excluded from running in the presidential elections, including the military
Nizar Kawan:
We must all refrain from exercising guardianship over the people
Today we are facing a “historic opportunity” to end the conflict in Libya
There is a reactionary project that wants to return Libya to totalitarian rule
There is a “coup” project to bring Libya backwards
Abdul Razzaq Al-Aradi:
We must treat the advisory committee’s proposals as one indivisible unit
We have waived and accepted the candidacy of the military, provided that evidence of acceptance of the resignation is submitted when submitting the nomination papers
We left the LPDF without adopting a clear text of the constitutional basis. Elections will be disrupted
If we do not reach an agreement by Thursday; I suggest to the mission to dissolve the committee and select other members
Speeche of UNSMIL Coordinator at the conclusion of the session:
We recommend the dialogue members to start negotiations among themselves to reach common ground
We will listen to your findings in the evening session today or during the morning session tomorrow
I confirm what Kubis said that leaving Geneva without reaching a constitutional basis is not an option
